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Dobovcan

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PostajNaslov: Family problem   Family problem Emptyuto tra 14, 2009 7:21 pm

Okay guys i wana hear u opinion from side of me and side of dad because u are dad somebody. It will be a long story so take u time before reading this.

Here it starts i think m< dad don't respect me. Al that he is doing em he insult me. all i do i do wrong. and Because i spend 100€ is now the fire in the house. he thinks that i spend all for the alcohol and friends. I just cant tell him that i gave money for the fuel for my motor bike and some money for the breakfast in school because i am hungry and those school gave so bad breakfast. and then he start insulting and so on in the end he say that he is only using and i get the feeling that he is master and i slave not his soon. I stop talking to him and same with my mother. then the things get colled at least i say hi and goodbye. but then they start again yesterday before eh went on the Easter family holidays he say wash the dishes but i didn't because i think it is the same shit if i did it today and those burn potatoes that mother cooked get more soft in the water and easy cleaning. then in the evening he came back little drunk. he come to me and say go wash the dishes i explain that i do tomorrow when i cook the pasta and got the time. he say go wash it. I say no tomorrow he went to the power lock and turn ym comp down: then he came back and say go wash the dish i say i wont go and 1 he raise the hand over me and stoped in my face. he says go wash the dishes i say no and there is second strike on me. then mother try to help i simply left to room turn ym tv on and try ot looking when he came took the tv remote and left: he almsot locked my mother in to the bathroom just to he shout on me: then next day he gave me job i didn't do because i am not gonna bow to him not in the way he is reacting. So we are again in the fight and i am asking u for the advice. plz

And don't say talk to him that don't help he only thinks what he want he don't wana listen to nobody!

So guys advice what u see from his side and what should i do
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyuto tra 14, 2009 7:55 pm

i have same problem with my father when i was 15.
2 time was really bad when i was 23.
you can do something only if others from your family support you.
mother,sister or brother and you on 1 side and your father on the other side.
if your alone against him you have no chance.
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptysri tra 15, 2009 8:28 pm

U know we love u like little bro and support u.
Don't speak to him. Tell him not to speak to u, do things around the house in advance so he would not have reason to come talk to u. In two weeks u can stop the in advance stuff and do it on ur own time. he won't come to u if he sees things are done.
Y does he think u are wasting time on drinking and shit?
can u write to us that?
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptysri tra 15, 2009 10:47 pm

What u mean drinking and shit? but thanks for advice and support mates Very Happy NOw i now there is somebody who likes me Laughing
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyčet tra 16, 2009 11:06 am

i love you dobovcan
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Dobovcan

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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyčet tra 16, 2009 1:16 pm

LOL hehe ty me to Embarassed
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyčet tra 16, 2009 2:07 pm

has tiger been at your place ,, cause he's in slovenia .. Very Happy
he sad he'll come to ya place
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyčet tra 16, 2009 3:56 pm

NOpe he is like 1 hour away and for 1 day not good he will come for more days then i ma gonna meet him and blade to Very Happy
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptypet tra 17, 2009 6:14 am

are your dad parents still alive? because if so u can try going over his head, and tell them what's going on and then they'll come down on his ass. grandparents are like that.
there is a saying in Spanish Miho de miho deus vesses miho.
means the son of my son is twice my son.

side note: if they're not alive forget what i wrote and i'm sorry for ur loss.
still looking out for u and trying to figure something up. feel free to join in guys.
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptypet tra 17, 2009 1:47 pm

Nope they are still alive Sad I now it is hard to say but sometimes i wish they are gone
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptypet tra 17, 2009 2:26 pm

yossi's point is that if they are still alive you tell that situation to them and they'll handle it
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptypet tra 17, 2009 8:04 pm

Cant talk to them. They get something stupid in the head and u cant get them out example: If i spend the money that i get from work they think that i lost in the tavern i do only 50% others i need for gas and the breakfast because there is a bad breakfast in school. so i am drunk in their way. Talking hopeless. Mad
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptysub tra 18, 2009 9:52 pm

your whole approach is messed up. U just don't want the situation resolved and u just want to complain to us, it's ok we still love u Dobovcan!!!!!
If I were u I would sit my dad down and start off by saying :
Hey Dad we need to talk.
U have an idea of how my life looks like but ur idea is wrong, tell him the truth about ur life and ur dreams, but important get to him while he's sober and not coming home drunk.
that's all for now and if u really wanna resolve situation and u need more advice write here or come on ts. If u wanna continue complain about situation then write here and we'll be there for u as friends. anyhow love ya and cya for now.
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PostajNaslov: Re: Family problem   Family problem Emptyned tra 19, 2009 9:41 am

Nadam se da češ razumeti jer nisam baš dobar u engleskom.

Teško je razumeti roditelje kada smo mladi. Svi smo mi imali sličnih problema. Nastojimo sada kada isto imamo decu to promeniti i biti bolji. Učimo na stvarima naših roditelja i pokušavamo to ispraviti. Najvažnije da znaš da moraš da poštuješ oca i majku. Roditelje nisi mogao da biraš nego su ti dani takvi kakvi jesu i zato ih prihvati i izdrži.
Imao sam sreće u svome životu da postanem samostalan, da kupim stan i da živim sa svojom obitelji. Moj otac je pokušavao da moj život učini groznim. Kroz celo školovanje sam bio maltretiran bez obzira što sam redovito išao u školu i nisam imao problema za zakonom. U školu sam hteo da idem za elektroničara, no trebao je potpis moga oca. Trebao sam da dobijam stipendiju i siguran posao. Otac nije potpisao i završio sam za nešto što je on hteo i nikada to nisam voleo. Radim sasvim drugi posao. Nisam se sa njime svađao. Kada sam se oženio prvo sam živeo kao podstanar, a kasnije sam zbog teške situacije morao da živim kod njega. Život sa njime bolje da ti ne pričam, ali reći ću ti da nikada se nisam sa njime svađao. Isto tako na oca se ne podiže ruka jer bi ti se mogla osušiti. Kada sam hteo da kupim stan nedostajalo mi je kapara (10% vrednosti stana). Nisam je dobio od oca već od prijatelja. Uvek sam se za pomoć prvo obratio roditeljima , a tek kasnije drugim ljudima. Danas kada dođem kod njega na odmor sa svojom obitelji moj mi otac kaže da sa njime za stolom neću jesti tako da ja i moja obitelj jedemo ručak u isto vreme kada i moj otac i majka ali u drugoj prostoriji. Tokom celoga moga života je govorio da od mene neće biti ništa i da sam lenčina i probisvet. Kada sam imao problem uvek kada sam ga pitao on mi se smijao i ismijavao me uz reči da sam glup. Iako je sve tako on je moj otac i ja se ne svađam sa njime. Pokušavam na miran način mu nešto objasniti i ako se on počne derati i vikati ja dan danas njemu kažem da je u pravu i da je ispravno njegovo. On voli prepričavati politiku. Ceo dan gleda političke emisije pa onda prepričava to posle.
Hteo bi da ti kažem da :

1. pokušaj biti štedljiv sa novcem. Pošto živiš na selu i imaš domaće kobase. Napravi sendvič kod kuće svaki dan i nosi ga u školu. Pokušaj se što manje voziti na motoru. Ako imaš bus do škole koristi ga. Motor koristi samo u vrlo sunčanim danima i kada trebaš nešto obaviti. Jednom ili dva puta mesečno odredi si vožnju na motoru kao rekreaciju. Nemoj ići u kafiće. Život ti može biti lep i u prirodi. Pogledaj kako je kekec bio srećan i pevao je od veselja.

2. I ja sam prao suđe u mladosti jer me otac naterao na to. Danas isto operem i veruj mi, pranje suđa ne traje više od 15 minuta. Tih 15 minuta ti neće poremetiti život. Oprano suđe bez da ti neko nešto kaže može da promeni tvoju ličnost. Obriši ili operi cipele kada dođeš iz vana. Neka su čiste i spremne za sutra. Pospremi svoj krevet kada se probudiš i pokušaj obrisati prašinu u svojoj sobi. To je dobro za tvoje zdravlje. Na aktivnosti u kući izgubičeš 30 minuta. To je umesto fiskulture koju ne radiš. Pokušavaj napraviti raspored rada na seoskom domačinstvu. Poslove koje radiš svakodnevno daj im određeno vreme. Time češ i svoje telo naučiti na rad i obaveze.

3. Oprosti svojima bližnjima jer i oni ponekad oproste tebi. I mi nekada naljutimo druge pa očekujemo da nam se oprosti, tako i ti oprosti drugima.

4. Moralna mjerila dobra su za nas u fizičkom, psihičkom i emocionalnom pogledu. Ona nas između ostalog štite od štetnih stvari kao što su zloupotreba droge, pijanstvo, spolno općenje sa nepoznatim osobama. Loše posljedice takvih postupaka mogu biti zločin, siromaštvo, nepovjerenje, raspad obitelji, psihički i emocionalni problemi, bolesti, pa čak i prijevremena smrt (sida, aids). Ako se držiš moralnih mjerila razvijaš zdrave, stabilne međuljudske odnose te osjećaj samopoštovanje i unutarnji mir.

5. Uz erotsku ljubav, koja ima svoje mesto u čovekovom životu, postoji i uzvišena, trajna ljubav, koja se temelji na ličnim prosudbama ljudi. Ona je točnija što su naša moralna gledišta na svet točnija. Ona nije pasivna, nego aktivna. To znači da osoba koja osjeća takvu ljubav ne čeka da drugi njoj pokažu ljubav, nego je ona pokazuje drugima. Ona je strpljiva i obzirna. Nije zavidna, hvalisava niti ponosna. Nesebično gleda na korist drugih, nije uvredljiva, nego spremno oprašta. Takva ljubav pozitivno deluje na ljude. Usto, pomaže nam da imamo dobre odnose s drugima, posebno s članovima obitelji. Roditelji na različite načine iskazuju svoju ljubav. Kao i životinje prema svojim mladuncima. Znaš isto da pojedine životinje pojedu svoje mlade jer nebi mogla da prehrani ostale. Dobro možda nismo životinje ali i mi ljudi nismo svi isti. Naši roditelji ponekad preteraju u svojim granicama i ograničenjima , a neki su pre blagi. Djeca koja odrastaju u ispravnim moralnim zakonima osećaju sigurnost jer je njihova obitelj čvrsta, osjećaju da ih roditelji istinski vole i smatraju vrijednima.

6. Puno radi na svome duhovnom životu. Šetaj prirodom i uživaj. Svako jutro kada se probudiš nasmij se i budi srećan što si živ. Udahni punim plućima zrak i stavi osmeh na lice. Veruj mi da su ljudi i u logoru bili srećni jer su dočekali još jedan dan. Život i u zatvoru je život ma kakav god on bio, jer dok god živiš imaš nade. Nada sa smrću prestaje i onda je svemu kraj.

Zato ti savetujem da izdržiš i da staneš na svoje noge. Pokušaj nakon škole zaposliti se i osamostaliti. Možda to neće da bude odma ali budi strpljiv. Ja sam od svojih roditelja otišao sa 25 godina prvi put i živeo sam nekih 6 godina. Znači do 31. Nakon toga sam nakon 3 godine otišao i sada sam ajmo reći samostalan. Zato ne svađaj se sa ocem već izdrži. Nađi posao i pokušaj biti samostalan. I što je najvažnije zapamti kakvo si imao detinjstvo ali ne zato da bi se osvetio ocu već da nebi iste stvai ponovio svome detetu. Otac nije dužan da ti išta da u životu. On ti je dao život, a to je najviše na svetu.
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